Rules changes in printed edition

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Rules changes in printed edition

Post by wybesse » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:34 am

I gather that some rules changes were inserted in the print edition that have yet to be made in the PDF edition.

Leaving aside the question of whether it might have acknowledged the early adopters by making the changes in the PDF edition *first*, is there a comprehensive list of these changes anywhere?

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Re: Rules changes in printed edition

Post by David Kuijt » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:12 pm

There is no *first* -- it has been our intent from the start to have only one version of the game available and official at any given time. So we are waiting to modify the PDF/online edition until the print version is available. The printed version and the PDF will be made to match at that time.

Regardless, the changes to the rules are really very small.
  • We figured out how we wanted to do shooting at a general. Earlier version had no mod (giving the general +1 wasn't good because it made the general immune to shooting, due to the lower factors). New version is a -1 to the shooter (which works better, because math).
  • Clarifications to WWg wording on front edge. Not a change in our intent, but a change in the wording to make it more clear.
  • WWg are 3 pts now, not 4.
  • A small collection of wording clarifications.
The biggest change isn't any of the above -- it is that we will finally have a physical rulebook. Many grognards don't consider a rules system "real" if they don't have a physical rulebook in front of them to prove it.

Shipping is in the last days now -- email arguments are flying about whether we've paid for a liftgate and home delivery or not (we have, if you care).
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Re: Rules changes in printed edition

Post by Rod » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:18 pm

You have not truly shipped anything until you have tried to ship international cargo via a container ship :D
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Re: Rules changes in printed edition

Post by wybesse » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:29 pm

Thanks for the reply.
David Kuijt wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:12 pm
There is no *first* -- it has been our intent from the start to have only one version of the game available and official at any given time. So we are waiting to modify the PDF/online edition until the print version is available. The printed version and the PDF will be made to match at that time.
Right, but making the changes to the PDF before the print version is available would have also maintained that "only one version at a time" idea. Since the only version anyone would have would be the PDF version. :)
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Re: Rules changes in printed edition

Post by David Kuijt » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:25 pm

wybesse wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:29 pm
Right, but making the changes to the PDF before the print version is available would have also maintained that "only one version at a time" idea. Since the only version anyone would have would be the PDF version. :)
And then we would have been fielding questions on when the print version would be available. Our assessment was that the way we are doing it was the best. There were going to be people who disagreed no matter which path we took.
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Re: Rules changes in printed edition

Post by Andreas Johansson » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:37 pm

Rod wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:18 pm
You have not truly shipped anything until you have tried to ship international cargo via a container ship :D
Lemme guess: delayed by Chinese New Year, held hostage by pirates, now in Covid-19 quarantine? :D

(I just might have you beat though. I once had occasion to ship some military hardware across the Pond - let's just say the paperwork was nontrivial.)
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Re: Rules changes in printed edition

Post by wybesse » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:19 pm

David Kuijt wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:25 pm
And then we would have been fielding questions on when the print version would be available.
But surely you are getting those anyway! :lol:
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Re: Rules changes in printed edition

Post by coopman » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:11 am

The printed rulebook looks really nice. I will be purchasing it soon.
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Re: Rules changes in printed edition

Post by Andreas Johansson » Mon May 18, 2020 2:53 pm

David Kuijt wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:12 pm
  • WWg are 3 pts now, not 4.
I note that the Meshwesh troop type page still has them as 4 pts.
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Re: Rules changes in printed edition

Post by David Kuijt » Mon May 18, 2020 8:04 pm

Andreas Johansson wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 2:53 pm
David Kuijt wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:12 pm
  • WWg are 3 pts now, not 4.
I note that the Meshwesh troop type page still has them as 4 pts.
Database update error; fix is in process.
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