Troop Type Summary Sheet

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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by greedo » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:55 pm

But that’s different. That’s saying that a unit that provided rear support, aka the rear element, must move forward with the pursuing element, aka the front element.

So for Wb, warrior, supported pike, the front element will move forward, and the rear unit also follows.

But the list of elements that pursue, 78.1, doesn’t contain light spear. If it did, then absolutely 78.3 would kick in and both light spear units would pursue.

So is light spear intended to be like pike, in that if pursues if it has rear support (and only gets +1), and the supporting element also follows behind?
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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by Rod » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:30 pm

That is correct any unit that receives rear support follows up
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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by greedo » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:06 pm

Ok I’ve updated the summary with light spear getting rear support of +1
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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by David Kuijt » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:58 am

greedo wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:55 pm
But the list of elements that pursue, 78.1, doesn’t contain light spear. If it did, then absolutely 78.3 would kick in and both light spear units would pursue.
You are correct -- the front light spear doesn't pursue. If it did, though, then the rear one would follow (by 78.3)
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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by Rod » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:03 am

Rod wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:30 pm
That is correct any unit that receives rear support follows up
This is my mistake, I just rechecked. Light spear do not pursue unless they double.

If they do double and pursue the rear rank follows up.

Totally my mistake, sorry for that.
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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by greedo » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:23 am

No worries at all :)
Corrected, and uploaded.
I'll keep the summary sheet here rather than trying to duplicate it on the FB page.
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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by skc » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:00 am

Just got your March update.
Was about to point out that in the previous one, you had rear support for Warriors & Warband reversed but I see its now rectified.
Thanks Greedo. 8-)
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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by greedo » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:16 pm

greedo wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:01 pm
Rod wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:44 am
Light Spear also pursue if supported.

Looking over the sheet briefly, looking good though.
Oh! I didn’t see that in the rules (78.1) or the QRS. Is this new? Thanks for checking over the work! I’d hate to get it wrong for new players.
Sorry about this. Was making some minor corrections to the sheet, and saw this again and got confused.

Do Light Spear pursue if they are rear supported? I get that if they did pursue, the rear rank would ALSO pursue (78.3), but the big questions are:

Do Light Spear pursue at all, or do they pursue only if they have rear support?

If they DO pursue with rear support (the same as Pikes), then rule 78.1 will need an addition.

Thanks again!
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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by Rod » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:42 pm

That is my fault for creating confusion.....

Ok, so the rule 78.3 is that any unit that provided rear support to a pursuing unit will pursue if that unit pursues.

The difference is this Pike pursue if they got rear support (they do not have to double). Light Spear only pursue if they double, and if they do double and pursue and had rear support, the support comes along for the ride.

I hope that helps.
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Re: Troop Type Summary Sheet

Post by greedo » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:58 pm

Rod wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:42 pm
That is my fault for creating confusion.....

Ok, so the rule 78.3 is that any unit that provided rear support to a pursuing unit will pursue if that unit pursues.

The difference is this Pike pursue if they got rear support (they do not have to double). Light Spear only pursue if they double, and if they do double and pursue and had rear support, the support comes along for the ride.

I hope that helps.
love it. This is clear now. Thanks Rod!
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