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How big before you get to Grand?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:50 pm
by chriscoz
How many points can you comfortably play on a standard board without it getting overly crowded? Space is constrained, but I'd like to play four players, with each having as many points to control as is practical.
Thanks.
Re: How big before you get to Grand?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:02 pm
by David Kuijt
chriscoz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:50 pm
How many points can you comfortably play on a standard board without it getting overly crowded? Space is constrained, but I'd like to play four players, with each having as many points to control as is practical.
On a standard board? Interesting question.
It would depend upon the armies, I suppose. If you play small armies (lots of high-point-value stands) you get more space on the map. If you play fast armies (maneuver armies) you need more space on the map (for maneuver). So if you were playing slow, high-point-value armies, a smaller map wouldn't punish you quite as much.
If your space is constrained, I'd still use the maximum board you could (as close to the appropriate size as you could), even if you couldn't reach GT size in your space available. For lots of reasons. Legacy systems had horrible problems with the edge of the world -- and those problems had a number of strange side effects. Maneuver armies couldn't maneuver and were quickly run off the board edge, for one. Even non-maneuver armies don't fight right if they are forced into a straight-up slog.
If you choose your armies carefully, though, you could probably play double size on a space-constrained board. Galatians vs. Greeks, or Greeks vs. Greeks, or Pyrrhus vs. Rome, or Seleucid vs. Ptolemaic (or any Successor vs. any Successor), or Rome vs. Seleucid, or that sort of thing. Pike armies have reduced frontage; Greeks (with the appropriate rear support battle card) likewise. It would feel very constrained to me, but it might work.
Re: How big before you get to Grand?
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:42 pm
by Bill Hupp
We have been doing 96-100 point games on 6'x'4' tables with a vairetty of armies and it seems to work fine. We start the armies as far apart from each other as they would be on a normal Triumph! board.
Re: How big before you get to Grand?
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:20 pm
by David Kuijt
Bill Hupp wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:42 pm
We have been doing 96-100 point games on 6'x'4' tables with a vairetty of armies and it seems to work fine.
What scale, Bill? 80mm bases?
Re: How big before you get to Grand?
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:55 pm
by Bill Hupp
Dave,
Just the normal 15mm figure basing. We haven't gotten to regular gaming with the 15mm figures with 80mm basing yet.
We were usually playing 2 on 2 in these 100 point games and a 2 hour games fit nicely into our midweek gaming schedule.
Bill