At what moment is the command distance measured?

[Delphin]

I couldn't find the answer in rulebook: is the distance measured at the beginning of the turn, or before moving each stand/group? For wxample, can I move a stand, who breaks line-of-sight to another stand, and after it move the second stand withut +1 CP? Or firstly move the general stand than another stand became inside the command distance?

[Rod]

It is measured at the time the command is given to the stand moving.

So for example if a general started too far from a stand and you used a command point to move the general closer, the stand could now be in command if you try to move it.

[Delphin]

Ok this. Thank!

[Bill Hupp]

I hadn’t thought of that, but it makes perfect sense because sequence matters.

So a General more than 8Mu from an enemy, could move behind their own troops to the left and give a command, then move back right using a March move? Might be a helpful tactic for terrain features breaking up command or for sending that lone stand to attack a camp.

Bill

[David Kuijt]

So a General more than 8Mu from an enemy, could move behind their own troops to the left and give a command, then move back right using a March move?

Could, but that would be a waste. Use what command points you want to at the original location, move the general, then use what command points you want at the second location. Any general who is wasteful of his command points usually gets punished by the dice gods quickly thereafter.

[Bill Hupp]

Right, you couldn't do that more than once or twice a game with good command dice results.

[wybesse]

Reading through all the older questions to make sure I haven't missed anything. Like this...

So a General more than 8Mu from an enemy, could move behind their own troops to the left and give a command, then move back right using a March move?

Could, but that would be a waste. Use what command points you want to at the original location, move the general, then use what command points you want at the second location. Any general who is wasteful of his command points usually gets punished by the dice gods quickly thereafter.

So, I realize I had assumed that a March move had to be made immediately after the first move that the stand or group made. But when I go back and look at the rule, it certainly doesn't say that.

I know how DK hates any game mechanism that requires "memory", but this seems as if it might require a marker of some sort, if a general can move, issue a command to another element (which then moves) and then command himself to make a march move. What if he were to issue several commands before moving again? Hrmmm.

[David Kuijt]

So, I realize I had assumed that a March move had to be made immediately after the first move that the stand or group made. But when I go back and look at the rule, it certainly doesn't say that.

I know how DK hates any game mechanism that requires "memory", but this seems as if it might require a marker of some sort, if a general can move, issue a command to another element (which then moves) and then command himself to make a march move. What if he were to issue several commands before moving again? Hrmmm.

Measurement of command range happens at the moment the command point is spent. There is nothing wrong with "giving an order" (measuring command range from position A), then moving the general to position B, then moving something else (measuring command range from position B), then moving the General again to position C, then moving a third thing (now measuring from position C). Why would there be something wrong with this? As long as the rules are observed for each move, that's the way it happens.

Could you express why this makes you uncomfortable?

[wybesse]

Measurement of command range happens at the moment the command point is spent. There is nothing wrong with "giving an order" (measuring command range from position A), then moving the general to position B, then moving something else (measuring command range from position B), then moving the General again to position C, then moving a third thing (now measuring from position C). Why would there be something wrong with this? As long as the rules are observed for each move, that's the way it happens.

Could you express why this makes you uncomfortable?

I had not realized that a general stand could move, order another stand to move, and then move again as a march move.

When I went back and looked at the rules, there isn't anything that says that a march move has to follow the stand's first tactical move, so it was just a faulty assumption on my part,

But if you were to tell me that a general can make a partial tactical move, order another stand to move, and then move the rest of it's first tactical move, my brain will melt.

[David Kuijt]

I had not realized that a general stand could move, order another stand to move, and then move again as a march move.

When I went back and looked at the rules, there isn't anything that says that a march move has to follow the stand's first tactical move, so it was just a faulty assumption on my part,

Cool.

But if you were to tell me that a general can make a partial tactical move, order another stand to move, and then move the rest of it's first tactical move, my brain will melt.

No, that would be what we call "illegal". One move at a time, finish it and go on with the next.