Cataphracts

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CoachB
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Cataphracts

Post by CoachB » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:52 am

Just a curious question about the Cataphracts being on a deeper base. When they Fall Back they break contact from their pursuers. I understand them breaking from Foot, but not how they can break off from mounted. They are by nature a heavier armored unit and not agile enough to turn and move away from a pursuing Knight unit. Is the base depth wrong for them?
thanks for the help.
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David Kuijt
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Re: Cataphracts

Post by David Kuijt » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:28 am

CoachB wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:52 am
Just a curious question about the Cataphracts being on a deeper base. When they Fall Back they break contact from their pursuers. I understand them breaking from Foot, but not how they can break off from mounted. They are by nature a heavier armored unit and not agile enough to turn and move away from a pursuing Knight unit. Is the base depth wrong for them?
Are you only concerned about when they fight Knights? Otherwise, everything that falls back "breaks off", no matter what their base depth. Unless they are fighting something that pursues after combat (Warband, Warriors, Knights, Elephants).

Square bases describe close-order mounted (mostly -- Chariots excepted, for reasons of figure size). Square bases, plus close-order, makes Cataphracts significantly more awkward to maneuver than Knights (or any open-order mounted). Switching the sizes of their bases (Knights and Cataphracts) would mess this up -- make Knights less maneuverable, and Cataphracts more maneuverable) to some extent. It would also mess with the clarity of the base depths -- right now EVERYTHING on a Knight-depth base is open order. EVERYTHING. Putting Cataphracts on Knight-depth bases would make it harder for people to internalize the rules and easier for people to make mistakes identifying troop types, which causes ill-feelings and grumpiness.

So we are aware of your concern, but in this case, there are a lot of reasons why square bases works better for Cataphracts, in spite of the minor oddity of their base depth allowing them to break contact with pursuing Knights.

Does that help?
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